Rabbi Obadia’s daughter meets with Abbas?

May 2, 2011

I thought the rabbi was a little nuts when he blamed the Carmel forest fire on not observing the Sabbath… apparently his daughter is as big a loon.

 
المفاوضات من صلاحيات م ت ف وليس الحكومة Negotiations of the powers of the PLO, not the government

رام الله- تقرير معا- بعد تردد واضح، وصل نحو 50 من اصحاب المبادرة الاسرائيلية للسلام الى مقر الرئاسة في رام الله للقاء الرئيس محمود عباس، بعد ان وافق الرئيس على طلبهم لهذا اللقاء. Ramallah – report together – after hesitation and a clear, arrived about 50 owners of the Israeli peace initiative to the presidential headquarters in Ramallah to meet Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, after the president agreed to their request for this meeting.

ومن ابرز الحضور الوزير السابق في حزب العمل موشيه شاحال ورئيس الموساد السابق داني ياتوم واثنان من كبار البروفيسور في اسرائيل وهما ايلي بوديه وموشيه ماعوز ورجل الاعمال اليهودي الملياردير عيدان عوفير الى جانب ابنة الحاخام عوفاديا يوسف، اما عن الجانب الفلسطيني فقد حضر اللقاء د. Among the most prominent attendees former minister in the Labor Party, Moshe Shahal and former Mossad chief Danny Yatom and two senior professor in Israel and two Eli duble and Moshe Maoz and businessman Jewish billionaire Idan Ofer along with the daughter of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, either on the Palestinian side the meeting was attended by Dr.. صائب عريقات وجبريل الرجوب والطيب عبد الرحيم وحسين الشيخ. Saeb Erekat, Jibril Rajoub and Tayeb Abdel Rahim Hussein al-Sheikh.

وكان التردد بسبب توقيع فتح وحماس لوثيقة المصالحة المصرية في القاهرة امس الاربعاء، وقال الوزير السابق موشيه شاحال “لدينا مشكلة في المجتمع الاسرائيلي وانهم قلقون وخائفون من اتفاق فتح وحماس وكي اكون صريحا فقد ترددنا في المجئ بعد سماعنا اخبار لمصالحة”. The frequency because of the signing of the Hamas-Fatah document reconciliation in Cairo on Wednesday, said the former minister Moshe Shahal “We have a problem in Israeli society, they are worried and scared of the Agreement on Fatah and Hamas To be frank have hesitated to come after hearing the news of reconciliation.”

وحول الحضور الصحفي الاسرائيلي الكثيف، قال احد الصحافيين الاسرائيليين لوكالة “معا”: لولا اتفاق حماس وفتح وسخونة اللحظة لما حضر هذا العدد من وكالات الانباء الاسرائيلية، لكن الجميع في اسرائيل يريد ان يعرف الان ما الذي تغيّر في السلطة. The Israeli journalist about attendees thick, “said one Israeli journalists told” together “: without the agreement of Hamas and Fatah and the hottest moment of what was attended by number of news agencies in Israel, but everyone in Israel wants to know now what has changed in power.

وعودة الى شاحال فقد قال امام الرئيس والحضور في احدى قاعات المقاطعة برام الله: صحيح ان رؤوسنا قد شابت ونحن نبحث عن السلام ومع ذلك لا نزال نبحث وجئنا لنقول للرئيس ابو مازن ان بناء جسور الثقة هو الاساس وليس غير ذلك”. And return to the Shahal has said to the president and the audience in one of the halls of the province in Ramallah: It is true that our heads were tainted and we are looking for peace, however we are still looking and we came here to say to President Abu Mazen to build bridges of trust is the foundation, and not otherwise. ”

من جانبه قال الرئيس ردا على سؤال يحمل تصريحات الزهار امس ان الحكومة الجديدة لن تعترف باسرائيل: “إن مهام الحكومة الجديدة المنوي تشكيلها من الكفاءات الوطنية (تكنوقراط) عقب اتفاق حركتي حماس وفتح، هي التحضير للانتخابات القادمة، وإعادة إعمار قطاع غزة، اما الشأن السياسي هو من اختصاص منظمة التحرير الفلسطينية ورئيسها، وليس من صلاحيات الحكومة”. For his part, the president said in response to a question holds Zahar’s remarks yesterday that the new government will not recognize Israel: “The tasks of the new government planned to set up of professionals (technocrats), following the agreement of Hamas and Fatah, are preparing for the upcoming elections and the reconstruction of the Gaza Strip, while the political affairs is the prerogative of the PLO and its chairman, and not the responsibility of the government. ”

وطالب الرئيس عباس، رئيس الوزراء الإسرائيلي نتنياهو بالاختيار بين السلام والاستيطان، وعدم التذرع بالاتفاق الذي تم بين حركتي فتح وحماس من أجل تحقيق الوحدة الوطنية. And called on President Abbas, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu to choose between peace and settlement, and not invoke the agreement between Fatah and Hamas in order to achieve national unity.


وقال: إننا نطالب الجانب الإسرائيلي بتجميد الاستيطان من أجل العودة إلى طاولة المفاوضات لتحقيق السلام، مجددا التأكيد على التزام السلطة الوطنية بخيار المفاوضات لحل الصراع الفلسطيني-الإسرائيلي. He said: “We call on the Israeli side to freeze settlement activity in order to return to the negotiating table to achieve peace, reiterating the commitment of the Palestinian National Authority the option of negotiations to resolve the Palestinian conflict – the Israeli.

واستمزجت وكالة “معا” خلال هذا اللقاء اراء كبار الصحافيين الاسرائيليين الذين غطّوا اللقاء، فكانت النتيجة ان غالبية الاسرائيليين متشائمين من اتفاق فتح وحماس ويتوقعون ان ينهار قبل شهر 9 القادم. And Astmzjt agency “together” during this meeting the views of senior Israeli journalists who covered the meeting, with the result that the majority of Israelis pessimistic of the Agreement on Fatah and Hamas, and expect that breaks down before the next 9 months.

وخلال اللقاء همس الوفد بأذن الرئيس عباس ان ابنة الحاخام اليهودي عوفاديا يوسف موجودة بين الحضور، فنظر اليها ابو مازن وقال لها “قولي لوالدك اننا صادقون في صنع السلام” ومن ثم اقترب اعضاء الوفد لالتقاط الصور مع ابو مازن، وكالة معا كانت هناك والتقطت الصور المرفقة بهذا الخبر. During the meeting, whispered delegation ear of President Abbas that the daughter of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, that exist between the audience, looked at her, Abu Mazen and told her, “Tell your father that we are sincere in making peace,” and then approached the members of the delegation to take pictures with Abu Mazen, and the agency together was there and photographed the attached this news. via maannews.net

 

What happens when Rabbi Ovadia dies?

September 24, 2010

Speculation is rife after the Shas spiritual mentor turned 90 this week

Among the most controversial covers of the respected magazine The Jerusalem Report was a haunting picture of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson with the headline “What happens when the Rebbe dies?” The magazine was published in April 1994, two months before the Lubavitcher Rebbe passed away. Printed after he suffered a stroke, the article said Schneerson had no children and had not chosen a successor, leaving his movement’s future in doubt. Sixteen years later, the concerns raised in the magazine have undoubtedly been proven unfounded. Chabad has continued to grow by leaps and bounds, and there are now more than 4,000 Chabad emissary families around the world. Yehuda Krinsky, who is the chairman of Chabad’s educational and social service arm, was even named recently by Newsweek as America’s most influential rabbi. The concerns raised in The Jerusalem Report story came back to the forefront this week when Shas’s spiritual mentor and the leader of Sephardi Jewry worldwide, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, reached the lofty age of 90. While Yosef is reportedly in relatively good health, even the closest people to God cannot emulate His immortality. He, too, is a one-of-a-kind phenomenon, and he has certainly given no indication of who could possibly succeed him. So what happens when Rabbi Ovadia dies? When Shas chairman Eli Yishai is asked that question the first time, he responds that he does not answer hypothetical questions. When pressed and told that the rabbi’s death is inevitable, not hypothetical, he gets offended and replies, “Up to 120, period.” That comparison to Moses, while inadvertent, underscores the problem. Before Moses died at that age, God insisted on Joshua being named as the new leader of the Jewish people so there would be no leadership vacuum at a critical point in the history of His people. Shas’s leadership says it has made no preparations whatsoever. But others outside the Sephardi haredi movement are getting ready. Shas’s critics believe that when the rabbi goes, so does his party, and the country’s political landscape will change dramatically overnight. The six or seven mandates Shas gets from people who are not haredi could return to secular parties. Shas will no longer be the kingmaker in coalition horse-trading. A secular national-unity government that could then more easily be formed could make vast changes in the framework of Israeli politics and society. Changes in the political system that have long been vetoed by Shas could pass. Direct, regional elections for part of the Knesset could be initiated, the electoral threshold could be raised and prime ministers will be much less vulnerable to political extortion. Israel might even get its first constitution. If the secular government changes the status quo on matters of religion and state, Israel may become somewhat less of a Jewish state. The very secular Supreme Court will most likely not prevent this from happening. Secular politicians refer to the rabbi’s death as “the ultimate big bang,” much bigger than the bang that formed Kadima, and certainly bigger than any other inevitable political development. So who could succeed Yosef, who encompasses both the popular appeal to Sephardi Jewry, including the secular constituency that composes Shas’s primary voting power, and at the same time the spiritual leadership, as manifested in his position as head of the Shas Council of Torah Sages? One factor is that while Rabbi Schneerson had no sons, Rabbi Yosef has many. “There are two different types of successor for Yosef,” a prominent figure close to Shas’s spiritual and political leadership told The Jerusalem Post. “The biological successors from among his rabbi sons would be the charismatic, audacious and prolific David; Ya’acov’s contribution would be primarily to the right wing and the national-religious sector; Yitzhak is the halachicly proficient son; and Avraham is the one with accessibility to the broad Israeli public. “But the true successors to Yosef will be two. As the leader of the popular Shas movement that reaches out to people’s hearts, will be accessible to all and safeguard the heritage of Sephardi Judaism, this will no doubt be Sephardi Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar. Among the Torah-scholars, it will be Rabbi Shalom Cohen,” head of the Porath Yosef yeshiva in Jerusalem and a member of the Shas Council of Torah Sages. Besides Cohen, Rabbis Shimon Ba’adani and Moshe Maya are on the council led by Yosef. “Have no doubt – everything will fall apart after Ovadia’s departure; there will be infighting and rival parties. Many prominent Sephardi rabbis with followings are currently under the auspices of Shas only due to the respect they hold for Yosef’s leadership, but they won’t remain there after he’s gone,” he said. “Amar has a bit of all of Yosef’s powerful leadership traits – he’s a deep-seated Sephardi, welcoming to secular people, with a nonpartisan outlook, the halachic ‘broad-shoulders’ to make concessions, a father to the Sephardim. Not to the degree that Yosef is, but no other leader possesses his qualities to that extent.? “Amar has become Israel’s most influential religious leader. To Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, Justice Minister Yaakov Neeman, MK Shelly Yacimovich and Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, he is the religious authority, with the character and standing. And he is gaining more and more power. “People close to Netanyahu and Neeman are working to change the law in such a way that would enable Amar to be reelected as chief rabbi after the end of his 10-year term, since they fear that his successor would be problematic – and difficult to cooperate with.” Another factor to Amar’s advantage is the fact that he is Moroccan, the largest Sephardi group in the country. “The Moroccans sought a father-type for years, and didn’t necessarily find it in Iraqi-born Yosef,” he noted. As for the graduates of Sephardi yeshivot, to them “Amar is much less significant. It is Cohen, who will take the helm of the Council of Torah Sages. Cohen is the Sephardi ‘rosh yeshiva,’ the spiritual, scholarly authority,” he said. Here again a parallel between Yosef, who was Sephardi chief rabbi between 1973 and 1982, and Amar emerges. “Aryeh Deri was once asked why Yosef, and not Cohen, is head of the Council of Torah Sages,” he recalled. “The answer he gave was that Yosef was the one who would leave his home every evening in the early ’80s, when Shas was in its initial states of formation, and attend every possible event, meet any interested group, no matter how small, to spread the word of the emerging Sephardi Torah revolution. “Social responsibility is also part of Amar’s agenda. Amar didn’t shy away from the conversion bill, for example, and decrees on every topic. He has a statesmanlike, responsible, sensitive and nonpartisan approach, that takes all of the Jewish people into account, and not just one tribe.” Can Deri himself save the movement he once headed? He has the charisma and can appeal to the Sephardi masses, but he is no halachic authority and is not seen as a religious leader. So who do Shas officials say can succeed Rabbi Ovadia when speaking off the record and only after looking over their shoulder to make sure no one is listening? Rabbi Ovadia. Yes, the rabbi himself, or rather, a picture of him on the wall. Shas officials believe that the traditional Sephardi masses, who voted for Shas because of their respect for Rabbi Ovadia, will continue to do so after his death. “It’s not the ideal situation,” a Shas official said. “But who knows? It worked for Chabad.”