Former Jordanian Crown Prince Hassan Bin Talal: The West Bank Is Part Of Jordan

October 13, 2012

Somehow in Prince Hassan’s mind a 19 year occupation of the territory grants the Hashemites sovereign rights, whereas Israel’s 45 years of control means nothing. And who exactly promised Judea and Samaria to the Hashemites?

(Prince Hassan bin Talal[1])

(MEMRI via israpundit.com) In a meeting with Palestinian citizens in Jordan, Prince Hassan bin Talal, Jordanian crown prince between 1965 and 1999, made an unusual statement, saying that the territories of the West Bank are actually part of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. He added that the two state solution is irrelevant in the current stage.
The Jordanian website Almustaqbal-a.com reported that the speech by the Jordanian prince took place at an October 9 meeting with Palestinians from Nablus, members of the Ebal charity organization. The meeting was organized by Jordanian Senate President Taher Al-Masri, who is himself a Palestinian from Nablus. During his speech, Prince Hassan said that he intends to visit other organizations in Jordan that represent West Bank residents.

The report stated that “Prince Hassan stressed that the West Bank is part of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, which included both banks of the [Jordan] River” and added that Hassan “did not personally oppose the two state solution, but that this solution is irrelevant at the current stage.”[2] He later added that even if the two state solution does not materialize, there are other options. According to Hassan, “both sides, Arab and Israeli, no longer speak of a political solution to the Palestinian problem.” He implied that even the Oslo Accords had met their end, and said that Arab losses from the Accords are estimated at $12 billion. The report added: “The attendees understood that Prince [Hassan] is working to reunite both banks of the [Jordan] River, and commended him for it.”
Prince Hassan later added: “The unity that existed between the west and east banks for 17 years… was arguably one of the best attempts at unity that ever occurred in the Arab [world]… I hope that I do not live to see the day when Jordan, or the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, relinquishes the land occupied in 1967 by the IDF, since it would bring us all to witness the humiliating end… These lands, which were occupied as part of the 1967 lands, including East Jerusalem, were promised to us, and nowadays we speak of them as Area C…”
Prince Hassan tried to clarify his statements and said that in terms of sovereignty and law, the West Bank was occupied by Jordan in 1948, and that everyone, including the Palestinians, agrees that Jordanian law is the basis for the demand to reclaim them from Israel. However, he added, Jordan ceased negotiating for these lands with Israel following a request by the Palestinian Authority. Hassan said: “If, God forbid, we were to recognize the Jordan River as a border with Israel, then every element hostile to Jordan – and there are many – could claim that Jordan has failed in its demand [to restore] Arab rights.”
In an attempt to further emphasize Jordanian sovereignty over the West Bank, Prince Hassan said that Ahmad Al-Shukeiri, who founded the PLO in Jerusalem in 1964, was actually “a guest of King Hussein in Jerusalem.” According to Hassan, “it must be clear that Jordanian legal and sovereign responsibility [over Jerusalem] was [decided] by our grandfathers when they fought atop Jerusalem’s walls.”
Prince Hassan stressed that Jordan should be a top priority for Palestine, and Palestine a top priority for Jordan.[3]

Endnotes:

[1] Albaladnews.net, October 9, 2012.
[2] It should be mentioned that other Jordanian websites that reported on Prince Hassan’s speech claimed that he had said: “I personally oppose the two state solution.” However, in a video of Hassan’s speech, he clearly expresses “disagreement with the elimination or disappearance of the two state solution.”
[3] Almustaqbal-a.com, October 11, 2012

if this is so, then I suppose then Jordan can legalize their Palestinians as citizens… right? …not likely

If Israel annexes the territory, the issue of Jordanian citizenship for the Arab residents is a negotiable option, but this certainly would not involve granting the Jordanians sovereignty.


‘Jewish presence in Hebron is an indisputable historical fact’

November 7, 2011
the taqqiya is getting a little more complicated. so get this… this guy is with the religious Hamas opinion that no land can be compromised to those who are not with Islam, but the war won’t happen untill their Mahji comes or the Jewish messiah comes… so they should all live in peace. of course that isn’t what the Quran says at all, but that is the bullshit part. I’m surprised this trick was never tried before.
(Nadav Shragaivia israelhayom.com) Hebron strongman Sheik Farid Khader el-Ja’abari is one of the Palestinian Authority’s most outspoken opponents • He rejects the idea of a Palestinian state and keeps close contact with the IDF and Jewish settlers.
bullshit taqqiya is on it’s way to make is sound complicated… it ain’t. even if this guy is stupid enough to believe his own bullshit

King Abdullah II says Jordan will never be Palestine

September 17, 2011

(Jerusalem Post / Reuters)
Melanie Philips: …but Jordan is indeed Palestine. As Camie Davis points out, the Arabs themselves repeatedly said so:
Jordanians, for decades, were avid proponents of the ‘Jordan is Palestine’ position. They used that position as justification for the annexation of the West Bank (AKA Judea and Samaria), arguing that Palestine was one single, indivisible unit, and that Jordan was the legitimate governing body of Palestine…‘We are the government of Palestine, the army of Palestine and the refugees of Palestine.Prime Minister of Jordan, Hazza’ al-Majali, 23 August 1959. ‘Palestine and Transjordan are one.’ King Abdullah, Arab League meeting in Cairo, 12 April 1948. ‘Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is one people and one land, with one history and one and the same fate.Prince Hassan, brother of King Hussein, addressing the Jordanian National Assembly, 2 February 1970.‘ Jordan is not just another Arab state with regard to Palestine, but rather, Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan in terms of territory, national identity, sufferings, hopes and aspirations.Jordanian Minister of Agriculture, 24 September 1980. ‘The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan.King Hussein 1981. Indeed, until 1970 the Palestine Liberation Organisation conducted terrorist operations against Jordan on the grounds that it was Palestine and the Hashemite minority was ruling the Palestinian majority. It was only after Jordan killed thousands of Palestinians in ‘Black September’ (and who in the west ever cared about that??) that Israel suddenly became the sole historic homeland’ of the Palestinians and Jordan was airbrushed out of the picture — and the fabrication of ‘Palestinianism’ became the accepted truth.


Hashemite Jerusalem if YOU BELIEVE IT and THEY SAY SO

August 15, 2011

The Palestinian Authority Ministry of Waqf and Religious Affairs is carrying out the work at Jordan’s request, the Israeli newspaper Maariv reported.

Maariv said the Jerusalem Municipality was not informed of the plans for the building, which is located in occupied East Jerusalem.

According to Maariv, the deserted building is used by prostitutes and drug users.

Jordan is renovating King Hussein’s unfinished palace in Jerusalem. The Israeli government is in a de facto manner releasing its sovereignty over ‘east’ Jerusalem. You can say otherwise, but that is the reality on the ground. The Jews will not have their borders respected if they do not respect their own borders.

…Maan reports that the Kingdom of Jordan is behind a land grab in so called East Jerusalem. The King has apparently decided to complete his father’s palaceTel el-Ful, has a long and rich history going back to biblical times when it was the location of King Saul’s palace, known as Givat Shaul (which is not the same as the Jewish neighborhood in northwest Jerusalem currently known as Givat Shaul). Tel el-Ful‘s location and height have made it a strategic site for 3,000 years.

Jordan will vote against a Palestinian Nation?

July 19, 2011

The Guardian reports that the ‘Palestinians’ may be looking for a way out of the ‘statehood’ trap

Some Palestinian observers believe the PA leadership, despite its robust statements committing to the UN approach, may also be quietly seeking a way to “climb down the tree“.

A Kuwaiti paper reported last week that Jordan will vote against the creation of a ‘Palestinian’ reichlet if it comes up for a vote in the UN General Assembly in September.

On the other hand, Jordan is nearing a crossroads in its attitude toward the Palestinians. In my book, The Political Legacy of King Hussein (2004), I analyze the advantages that Hussein could have found in losing of the West Bank to Israel.
First and foremost, Israel would be in charge of resolving the Palestinian issue, and the Palestinians would not be in a position to claim Jordan as a Palestinian state.
In recent months, Israel seems to have divorced itself from its traditional policy of resisting a Palestinian state at all costs.
In the Jordanian mind, this translates to a position that might endanger the very existence of the Hashemite Kingdom, as well as the 1994 Israeli-Jordanian Peace Treaty, and a de-facto abandonment of the traditional friendship between the two countries that has survived many crisis since 1960.
Jordan has tried (and usually succeeded) in letting Israel lead the way against the creation of a Palestinian state. However, Israel is now seen as being too weak to halt a Palestinian independence process. The creation of such a state would put Jordan’s very existence in jeopardy: The PLO is formally and spiritually committed to taking over all of mandatory Palestine – i.e., Jordan, the territories and Israel. Considering that Israel would hold its ground within the 1967 lines, the next target of a small, economically weak, irredentist Palestinian state would be Jordan – a country that has already served as a battleground for the PLO in 1970-71.
If, indeed, this is the current Jordanian reading, it follows that the US and Israel are seen as weak players that cannot be trusted to support the kingdom.
That reading sounds pretty accurate to me. Read the whole thing.

It would be easier for everyone if the Arabs just clarified the words of Mohammad and said Palestine was not the goal. The goal is to kill the Jews in Israel because Islamic texts say that is what will happen.


If the world supports the Arab Spring, shouldn’t Jordan become Palestine?

May 29, 2011

Apparently, a new movement led by Jordanians is aiming to do exactly that. From IsraelSeen, in an interview with Mudar Zahran, a Jordanian dissident:

Were the Hashemites not ruling the eastern part of Palestine then the Palestinians already would have had a country for sixty years and nobody would have pressured Israel to give away its land. Yet this is not the case and the Hashemites are ruling the place and constantly telling the Palestinians they are merely refugees.

Indigenous Jordanians

However, the world will only change its views on the location of the future Palestinian state if it wakes up to the problem of Jordanian apartheid. via elderofziyon.blogspot.com


Indigenous Jordanians

September 6, 2010

The view from my family’s living room takes in a tremendous vista. We live on a hill with much of northern Jerusalem within sight. When journalists have come to our home, and there have been dozens such visits in the past five years, I routinely try to draw their attention to the shell of a building – a very large building – off to the left side. It’s on a hill somewhat higher than ours. I tell them to look carefully, to pick out the large exposed cement pillars, the enormous flat roof. I tell them that this is a building site that has remained essentially untouched, certainly unfinished, for more than forty years. It was intended to be the palace of Jordan’s King Hussein, constructed by him as a kind of celebration of nearly two decades of domination by the ruling Hashemite family of the city below, of Jerusalem. Indeed of the entire region that these journalists and their editors and colleagues have grown accustomed to calling the Israeli Occupied Territories.

I have not yet met a single journalist or press
photographer or film crew or stringer or editor who admits to
knowing about Hussein’s partly-constructed palace or what it means.

The modern Kingdom of Jordan, formerly known as Transjordan, represents approximately 78 percent of the original Palestine Mandate and was founded in 1949 following the War of Independence between Israel and the surrounding Arab states.  There is no difference, ethnically-speaking, between Arabs who lived east of the Jordan river in that portion of the Palestine Mandate which eventually became Jordan and those Arabs who originally lived west of the of the Jordan river in the area commonly known today as the “West Bank”.  Even demographers do not distinguish between them.
But professional propagandists who wish to draw an artificial distinction between these groups of Arabs for the sake of political expediency or to push a particular agenda, do attempt to bifurcate them:

But Jordan’s leading news website www.Ammonnews.net doesn’t shy away from hectoring the government over misappropriation of funds by senior officials or highlighting fault lines between the country’s Palestinian population and indigenous Jordanians.

Note that “indigenous Jordanians” are simply those (Palestinian) Arabs who happened to be living in the eastern portion of the Mandate when the country was founded.  Notwithstanding, the Jordanian government often discriminates unfairly between its Arab citizens of different tribal ancestry and has recently revoked the citizenship of thousands of subjects who originally came to Jordan from the West Bank.  Reuters doesn’t mention this and suggests, misleadingly, that such deprivations are only now being considered:

Hattar’s ‘Allofjordan’ was one of the few outlets, along with ‘Ammonnews’, to publish statements of normally apolitical ex-army officers asking King Abdullah to revoke citizenship of thousands of Jordanians of Palestinian origin, echoing the same fears the kingdom could turn into a Palestinian state.

Would Reuters be as taciturn if the Israeli government had stripped its Arab population of citizenship?  Rhetorical question.

The damage caused to us Israelis by the shallow and
cowardly practice of journalism of this sort came home to me quite
sharply in an encounter of which I was part in Europe. In February
2004, I was invited to join a small delegation of Israelis, all of
us victims of terror because of things done to us or our loved ones
by terrorists. The purpose of the delegation was to go to a
first-of-its-kind event – an international congress of victims of
terror from many countries, organized in a major European capital
and intended to provided a voice for the victims – a voice, as all
of us know, that is rarely heard. And in particular to let the
voices of Israel’s victims be heard.
In the week before our departure from Israel, word
came back from the organizers of the conference, hearing that we
were about to arrive. They said: If you plan to come as a delegation
representing Israel, it would be better not to come. If you insist,
then you will be invited to pay at the door and to take a seat in
the audience, but we have no desire for you to speak or to be
official recognized. It would be better for everyone if you stayed
home.