Elena Kagan tied to Obama birth certificate

August 5, 2010

the sad thing about my falling out with Yid With Lid the blogger is that I don’t get to laugh at him about this. He really seemed to think the Birth Certificate claim was crazy. Obviously not

that is if you believe World Nut Daily… but then it isn’t just them that are on this now. Information related to Obama’s mom’s travel schedule out of the country have also disappeared.

below is the original post from wnd.com
it might be Bullshit, but it isn’t the only trail that might lead to Obama’s paperwork.   One thing is clear to me.  There are too many coincidences.  It makes no sense that a sitting president can’t prove he is a citizen especially after going after McCain for the same issue. Honestly, WND does have a habit of pushing hunches as evidence, but was not Bill Clinton’s affairs also a very logical conclusion for years that could not be proven till later?

Just when you thought there couldn’t be any more players in the ongoing soap opera over the hunt for President Obama’s original birth certificate and his constitutional eligibility for office, there comes yet another name: Elena Kagan.
Yes, the same Elena Kagan nominated by the commander in chief to be the next justice on the U.S. Supreme Court has actually been playing a role for some time in the dispute over whether Obama is legally qualified to be in the White House.
Here’s the connection. Kagan served as solicitor general of the United States from March 2009 until May of this year.
In that role, she legally represented the U.S. government in numerous cases coming before the Supreme Court.
A simple search of the high court’s own website reveals Kagan’s name coming up at least nine times on dockets involving Obama eligibility issues.



Searching the dockets at the U.S. Supreme Court’s website reveals Elena Kagan’s name coming up numerous times on cases challenging  President Obama’s constitutional eligibility for office. (Supreme Court screenshot with name highlighted by WND, Aug. 4, 2010)

Docket No, 09-724, for instance, comes up with this in the search result:

Title: The Real Truth About Obama, Inc., Petitioner v. Federal Election Commission, et al. Reply of petitioner The Real Truth About Obama, Inc. filed. The Real Truth About Obama, Inc. Elena Kagan

Clicking on any of the dockets reveals who the original petitioners were, as well as what proceedings and orders were issued in each case. Here’s another docket, with Jamal Kiyemba v. Barack H. Obama.

Elena Kagan’s name is noted as solicitor general for cases involving Obama’s consdtitutional eligibility. (Supreme Court screenshot with name highlighted by WND, Aug. 4, 2010)

The fact Kagan handled these cases and is now Obama’s first choice for the high court is raising some eyebrows.

“She was the solicitor general for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural-born citizenship,” notes WND reader Carl Jorgensen of Farmingdale, N.J. “He owes her big time.”

“All of the requests were denied of course,” Jorgensen continued. “They were never heard. It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn’t it? The American people mean nothing any longer. It’s all about payback time for those that compromised themselves to elect someone that really has no true right to even be there. We should be getting so sick of all of this nonsense. The USA has finally become the laughing stock of the world. God help and deliver us.”


Kagan’s “Low Value” Speech Could Be Expensive | THE CUBAN REVOLUTION

June 29, 2010

While Kagan appears to be focusing more on conduct based regulation when it comes to hate speech, one has to be concerned when we start talking about  a categorical balancing of the costs and “value” inherent in certain speech.  This takes us into a legal form of “social engineering” that has no place on the court.

If speech leads to imminent lawless action or fits a few other very narrow categories  we already can regulate it and we do. Even these types of laws, however, have been subject to subjective moral flexibility. The use of child pornography laws to prosecute sexting is an example.  What about hate speech? Who sets the bar?   Are we going to criminalize Holocaust Denial?  That’s low value speech to me.  Why not?  If she gets hers, I want mine.  It’s ad hoc right?   What about inflammatory political speech?   We tried that once. It was called Sedition. Didn’t work out well.
I am not contending that Kagan is going to go off the “free speech deep end” but to even consider any type of “value balancing” approach to hate speech even with the best intentions could take us down a free speech rabbit hole that will be hard to climb out of, setting the 1st Amendment back decades.
Is there low value speech?  I agree with Kagan that there is.  That does not mean the court should start adding ad hoc categories designed to tell me what it is. I can decide for myself and make my personal decision if I want to view it, engage in it or debate it.  There is already enough subjectivity to go around without opening up a Pandora’s Box of  moral interpretation.

Read Brian’s entire post at briancuban.com
The key quotes from Kagan are there.

Any idea in pure form is dangerous. Obviously there are limits to how far speech can go before it threatens the individual. The key to this issue is more complex then just weighing the values, variables and attributes of cause and effect. Of course there is no math to this. What scares me is not that Kagan sees limitations to what can be said… what scares me is that she (and this is an assumption based on her other loyalties) will assume that violent speech can be policed in a centralized manner by the Federal government or worse… the U.N.