Hagel denies Armenian genocide

January 14, 2013

Armenian-American leaders and human rights advocates have expressed deep reservations about the nomination of Chuck Hagel to lead the defense department.
Hagel, a two-term Republican senator from Nebraska, was nominated Monday as President Barack Obama’s pick to head the Pentagon. He faces criticism for opposing a 2005 congressional resolution recognizing Turkey’s genocide of more than one million Armenians.
“What happened in 1915 happened in 1915,” Hagel said during a 2005 trip to Armenia when he was serving in the Senate. “As one United States senator, I think the better way to deal with this is to leave it open to historians and others to decide what happened and why.”
“The fact is that this region needs to move forward,” Hagel continued. “We need to find a lasting, just peace between Turkey and Armenia and the other nations of this region. I am not sure that by going back and dealing with that in some way that causes one side or the other to be put in difficult spot, helps move the peace process forward.”
Armenian-American leaders and genocide experts decried these comments as insensitive and dangerous. They maintain that Hagel’s willingness to overlook the systematic genocide of more than one million people raises concerns about his possible tenure as the nation’s top defense official.
“Senator Hagel’s remarks from 2005 ignore a proud chapter in U.S. history during which America’s diplomatic community played an important role denouncing human rights violations and setting an example of humanitarian assistance on behalf of a people at risk,” said Bryan Ardouny, executive director of the nonpartisan Armenian Assembly of America. (more)

you can’t say Hagel has not been consistent in his loyalties. It would be interesting now that Turkey has a proxy war with Iran in Syria where his bias would leave him. I really don’t want to find this out however.

Turkey freezes all ties with France

December 23, 2011

I don’t believe I’m saying this, but I agree with Erdogan here. This is not an enlightened way of thinking. I’m of the position that the Armenians were in fact killed in mass, but it can not be compared to the Holocaust of Jews because it was an open call to arms against the Ottomans. This would immediately make me in conflict to this law as well.

(israelmatzav.blogspot.com) On Thursday, the lower house of the French parliament passed a bill making it a crime punishable by one year in jail to deny any genocide. That includes the Armenian genocide committed by the Turks between 1915-18, and Turkey reacted with predictable seething and rage (Hat Tip: Will).

Turkey’s Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said on Thursday a bill passed by France’s lower house of parliament, making it a crime to deny genocide, was racist, discriminatory and xenophobic and said it had opened wounds with Paris that would be difficult to heal.
Erdogan said Turkey was cancelling all economic, political and military meetings with NATO partner France and said Ankara would cancel permission for French military planes to land and warships to dock in Turkey as a result of the bill.

That’s even more than the steps they’ve taken against Israel (so far).
Let’s go to the videotape.
The BBC adds:

Under the bill, those publicly denying genocide would face a year in jail and a fine of 45,000 euros (£29,000: $58,000).
Armenians say up to 1.5m people were killed by the Ottoman Turks in 1915-16.
Ankara says closer to 300,000 people died, and that Turks were also killed as Armenians rose up against the Ottoman Empire when Russian troops invaded eastern Anatolia, now eastern Turkey.
More than 20 countries have formally recognised the killings as genocide.

Turkish TV announced the recall of the country’s envoy in response to the bill.
Ambassador Tahsin Burcuoglu will leave France on Friday and further measures will be announced in Turkey by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a Turkish embassy spokesman confirmed for French news agency AFP.
Earlier, Turkey’s main political parties issued a joint statement condemning the bill, saying it “denigrates Turkish history”, and there have been protests outside the French embassy in the Turkish capital, Ankara.

CNN adds:

“We are reviewing our relations with France,” Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said after the French National Assembly passed the so-called Armenian genocide bill. “We will take our measures phase by phase depending on France’s behavior from now on.
Erdogan said Turkey is recalling its Paris ambassador for consultations to Ankara, is canceling bilateral visits, and won’t cooperate with France in joint projects within the European Union.
“We are stopping all kinds of political consultations with France. We are canceling bilateral military activities and joint exercises from now on. We are canceling the permission granted annually for all military overflights, landings and take-offs. We are starting permission process for every military flight individually. From today on, we are rejecting the permission requests of military ships to visit ports. We will not attend and held the bilateral Turkey-France joint economic and trade partnership committee meeting that was planned for January 2012 under the co-chairmanship of the economy ministers of the two countries,” Erdogan said.
“I am underlining this. This is the first phase.”

Israel contemplates playing hardball with Turkey

September 9, 2011

For an entire week since the Palmer report mostly exonerating Israel for the Mavi Marmara incident was released, Turkey has been increasing its rhetoric and actions against Israel – and the only official Israeli response has been to express hope that relations between the two countries can improve. That may be about to change.

(YNet) Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has decided to adopt a series of harsh measures in response to Turkey’s latest anti-Israeli moves, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday.

Senior Foreign Ministry officials convened Thursday to prepare for a meeting to be held Saturday with Lieberman on the matter. Saturday’s session will be dedicated to discussing Israel’s response to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s recent threats and his decision to downgrade Ankara’s diplomatic ties with Jerusalem.

Following Thursday’s meeting, officials assessed that Turkey is not interested in an Israeli apology at this time and prefers to exploit the dispute with Jerusalem in order to promote Ankara’s status in the Muslim world. Lieberman therefore decided there was no point in seeking creative formulas for apologizing, instead choosing to focus Israel’s efforts on punishing Turkey.

The Foreign Ministry has now decided to proceed with the formulation of a diplomatic and security “toolbox” to be used against the Turks. The first move would be to issue a travel warning urging all Israeli military veterans to refrain from traveling to Turkey. The advisory will be especially harsh as it will also urge Israelis to refrain from boarding connections in Turkey.

Another planned Israeli move is the facilitation of cooperation with Turkey’s historic rivals, the Armenians. During Lieberman’s visit to the United States this month, the foreign minister is expected to meet with leaders of the Armenian lobby and propose anti-Turkish cooperation in Congress.

The implication of this move could be Israeli assistance in promoting international recognition of the Armenian holocaust, a measure that would gravely harm Turkey. Israel may also back Armenia in its dispute vis-à-vis Turkey over control of Mount Ararat.

Lieberman is also planning to set meetings with the heads of Kurdish rebel group PKK in Europe in order to “cooperate with them and boost them in every possible area.” In these meetings, the Kurds may ask Israel for military aid in the form of training and arms supplies, a move that would constitute a major anti-Turkish position should it materialize.

However, the violent clashes between Turkey and the Kurds only constitute one reason prompting accusations that Ankara is violating human rights. Hence, another means in Lieberman’s “toolbox” vis-à-vis Erdogan is a diplomatic campaign where Israeli missions worldwide will be instructed to join the fight and report illegal Turkish moves against minorities.

The tough response formulated by Lieberman stems, among other things, from the foreign minister’s desire to make it clear to Erdogan that his anti-Israeli moves are not a “one-way street.”

EOZ says:The current Turkish leadership is not the type to back down in face of actions like these, so there is a danger of a macho cycle of escalation that cannot be easily repaired.

EOZ has gone to Ariel Sharon land! Turkey needs to experience a little thorn before they take anyone seriously.

Armenian protest against Erdogan visit turns violent

November 26, 2010

Armenian protest against Erdogan visit turns violent


BEIRUT: Lebanese protesters of Armenian descent clashed with security forces Thursday during a demonstration against the visit of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
Members of the Armenian community in Lebanon organized the protest in Downtown Beirut to condemn Erdogan’s two-day visit, which started Wednesday. Erdogan had met with Lebanon’s three top officials and held visits to north and south Lebanon to inaugurate a school and a hospital.

Armenian Orthodox Archbishop in Lebanon Kegham Khatcherian warned Lebanon and the Arab world against surrendering their leadership to foreign powers, saying “we are protesting in Martyrs Square not against an official visit or against an agreement, but to prove to this visitor [Erdogan] and to the entire world that we will not keep quiet about our inherited right.”

Turkey threatens to expel 100,000 Armenians

March 18, 2010
Recep Tayyip Erdogan

Turkey’s PM has begun a tentative rapprochement with Armenia

Turkey’s prime minister has threatened to deport 100,000 Armenian migrants, amid renewed tensions over Turkish mass killings of Armenians in World War I.

Recent resolutions in the US and Sweden have called the killings “genocide”.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan told the BBC that of 170,000 Armenians living in Turkey “70,000 are Turkish citizens”.

“We are turning a blind eye to the remaining 100,000… Tomorrow, I may tell these 100,000 to go back to their country, if it becomes necessary.”

Thousands of Armenians, many of them women, work illegally in Turkey. Most do low-skilled jobs such as cleaning.

so Erdogan (who thinks that Jews in his country are parasites) objects to talking about how the Islamic Turks murdered over 1.5 million Armenian Christians less than 90 years ago, and then says he could kick out 100,000 Christians now because of their faith and country of their birth. While claiming his country’s innocence of genocide, Erdogan has no problem laying the charges of genocide at the door of Israel for killing around 1,000 terrorists in defensive maneuver against rocket fire.

The Armenian Genocide and Culturism

March 8, 2010