Egypt: Leading Candidate For President Amr Moussa Calls Israel Peace Accord “Dead And Buried"

April 30, 2012

(Haaretz)(Weasel) The leading candidate in Egypt’s presidential race said on Sunday that the Camp David Accords should be consigned to the shelves of history, describing the agreement as “dead and buried.”
At a mass rally in southern Egypt, Amr Moussa, who is currently ahead in Egypt’s race for president, spoke of the peace agreement between Israel and Egypt, saying that “the Camp David Accords are a historical document whose place is on the shelves of history, as its articles talk about the fact that the aim of the agreement is to establish an independent Palestinian state.”
Moussa went on to say that there is “no such thing” as the Camp David agreement.
“This agreement is dead and buried. There is an agreement between Israel and Egypt that we will honor as long as Israel honors it. The Jewish document that defines relations between Israel and the Arabs is an Arab initiative from 2002 whose advancement should be bilateral: step for step, progress for progress.”

indeed


do you think ElBaradei sees stones the way he sees WMDs?:

March 22, 2011


RT @ElBaradei Went 2 vote w family attacked by organized thugs. Car smashed w rocks. Holding referendum in absence of law & order is an irresponsible act

For @ElBaradei the turnaround happened almost overnight. He was the Brotherhood’s front man but…broke with them over the referendum. And now they want to break him.

So is the mass media going to start saying: Hey, we were wrong! These people are strong, organized, and radical? Or, rather, is the Obama Administration going to sink deeper into the al-Qaida bad; all other Islamists good mantra? To put it another way, are they willing to lose face for exaggerating the power of Facebook?

I guess there are some people in Egypt who don’t like former IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei. On Saturday, he went to vote in a referendum and watch what happened….
 Hmmm.

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At this point–to show how bad the situation is in practice–Amr Moussa, veteran radical Arab nationalist, Israel-baiter, and anti-American is quickly becoming the best one can hope for in terms of the new regime.

The only thing surprising to me is that the Islamists have been emboldened so fast. I thought they would be cautious a while longer in their pretense at being moderate and pro-democracy.  But revolutionary Islamists quickly become arrogant when people make concessions to them and they conclude that they are strong and victorious.  
via rubinreports.blogspot.com


Arab League, Which Defended Bashir From Charges Of Genocide, Condemns Qaddafi?

March 2, 2011
Omar al-Bashir

Back in 2008, Luis Moreno-Ocampo–Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court–filed 10 charges of genocide and crimes against humanity against Sudanese president Omar al-Bashir in response to a campaign of extermination the U.N. daid had claimed 300,000 lives and driven 2.5 million people from their homes.

Amr Moussa, Arab League

The Arab League defended Bashir against the genocide charges

One would think that Qaddafi’s killing of over 1,000 of his people might pale in comparison and receive a similar response from the Arab League–but no: in the case of Libya, the Arab League has taken notice

So why the more active response from the Arab League?

One reason could be that in this case, Western countries have begun to mobilize against Libya and their apparent seriousness has gotten the Arab League’s attention.
But there is another, more cynical, possibility: Amr Moussa, the Arab League’s secretary general, has announced he is planning to run in the Egyptian presidential election. How would it look to Egyptians if Moussa was perceived as being weak in responding to Egypt’s fellow-protesters?
Politics at its finest.

Details and Elaboration on daledamos.blogspot.com  (he wrote it)


Abbas rules out peace

March 27, 2010

…without unilateral concessions on property in Jerusalem where Jewish people live and can not prosper and survive without building as needed :

Mahmoud Abbas at the Arab League summit in Sirte (27 March 2010)

Mahmoud Abbas said Jerusalem was “the gate to peace” in the Middle East
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has ruled out attending indirect “proximity talks” with Israel unless it halts the construction of settlements.

Mr Abbas told an Arab League summit he would not resume negotiations as long as Israel maintained the “status quo” in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.
He was seeking support after Israel appeared to refuse to back down in a row with the US over East Jerusalem.
Meanwhile, Israeli tanks have withdrawn from Gaza after an overnight incursion.
It came after the killing of two Israeli soldiers and two Palestinian militants in the worst fighting in the territory for more than a year.
Hamas said its fighters had been involved in the initial border clash, but insisted their actions were defensive. Israel said it began when its troops spotted militants planting explosives along the border.
Reports said one Palestinian was killed during the Israeli incursion.
‘Madness’
In a speech to the Arab League summit in the Libyan town of Sirte on Saturday, President Abbas demanded an immediate end to Israel’s building on occupied territory, particularly East Jerusalem.

We have to have alternative plans because the situation has reached a turning point
Amr Moussa
Secretary-Genera, Arab League

“We cannot resume indirect negotiations as long as Israel maintains its settlement policy and the status quo,” he said.
“Negotiations on the borders [of a future Palestinian state] would be absurd if Israel decides on the ground the border,” he added. “We have always said that Jerusalem is the jewel in the crown and the gate to peace.”
Nearly half a million Jews live in more than 100 settlements built since Israel’s 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. They are held illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a guest of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, described the Israeli position as “madness”.

TIMELINE: ISRAEL-US ROW
9 Mar: Israel announces the building of 1,600 new homes in East Jerusalem during visit by US Vice-President Joe Biden.
Mr Biden condemns the move
11 Mar: Mr Biden says there must be no delay in resuming Mid-East peace talks, despite the row
12 Mar: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says the Israeli move is “deeply negative” for relations
15 Mar: The US says it is waiting for a “formal response” from Israel to its proposals to show it is committed to Mid-East peace
16 Mar: The US envoy to the Mid-East postpones a visit to Israel
17 Mar: President Obama denies there is a crisis with Israel
22 Mar: Hillary Clinton tells pro-Israel lobby group Aipac Israel has to make “difficult but necessary choices” if it wants peace with Palestinians.
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu tells Aipac Israel has a “right to build” in Jerusalem
23 Mar: Mr Obama and Mr Netanyahu meet behind closed doors with no media access
23 Mar: Jerusalem municipal government approves building of 20 new homes in East Jerusalem
24 Mar: Mr Netanyahu ends Washington trip talking of a “golden” solution amid US silence

“This leads Israel to isolation,” he told the conference. “By adopting such an attitude, Israel is not only violating international law, but also violating human feelings, conscience and history.”
The Arab League’s Secretary-General, Amr Moussa, said its member states should prepare for the possibility of the peace process’s “complete failure”.
“It’s time to face Israel. We have to have alternative plans because the situation has reached a turning point,” he added.
The UN chief, Ban Ki-moon, meanwhile urged Arab leaders to continue supporting US efforts to revive the peace talks.
He said Jerusalem’s significance should be respected, and that the city “should emerge from negotiations as the capital of two states”.
The BBC’s Rana Jawad, in Tripoli, says this is the first time the UN has specified what it would like to result from the talks about Jerusalem.
The chief Palestinian negotiator, Saeb Erekat, welcomed the statement, telling the BBC it was “the right course for a solution in accordance with international law”.
At the end of the two-day gathering in Libya, the Arab League is expected to adopt a new resolution to include a plan to establish a commission of legal advisors to pursue cases in international courts regarding East Jerusalem, our correspondent says.
‘Narrowing of the gaps’
Israel’s approval two weeks ago of plans for 1,600 new homes in the East Jerusalem settlement of Ramat Shlomo prompted the Palestinians to pull out of the proximity talks mediated by the US special envoy, George Mitchell, which both sides had only just agreed to attend.

Ramat Shlomo
[Mr Netanyahu’s] position is that there is no change in Israel’s policy on Jerusalem that has been pursued by all governments of Israel for the last 42 years
Israeli prime minister’s office

Unveiled at the start of a visit to the Middle East by US Vice-President Joe Biden, the decision caused one of the worst crises in US-Israeli ties for decades.
During a visit to Washington last week, the White House tried to persuade Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to commit to several confidence-building measures to persuade Mr Abbas to return to the talks.
A senior Palestinian Authority official has told the BBC that to re-enter the indirect negotiations it would require assurances that the Ramat Shlomo project would not be implemented for at least three years, and that the Israelis would not “continue to take actions which destroy our credibility”.
An Israeli government spokesman said on Friday there had been a “narrowing of the gaps” between Israel and the US, but Mr Netanyahu stressed there had been “no change in Israel’s policy on Jerusalem”.
In November, Mr Netanyahu announced a 10-month suspension of new building in the West Bank. But his government considers areas within the Jerusalem municipality as Israeli territory and thus not subject to the restrictions.

POINTS OF TENSION IN JERUSALEM
Map of Jerusalem
1 Gilo: 850 homes approved for publication and planning objections in Nov 2009
2 Pisgat Zeev: 600 homes approved for publication and planning objections in Jan 2010
3 Sheikh Jarrah: Municipality approves the building of 20 new apartments on the site of an old hotel
4 Ramat Shlomo: 1,600 homes approved for publication and planning objections in Mar 2010
5 Silwan: Demolition orders on 88 Palestinian homes built without difficult-to-get permits – Israel planning controversial renewal project
6. West Bank barrier: Making Palestinian movement between West Bank and Jerusalem harder – Israel says it is for security

Here is video of Benjamin Netanyahu, an excerpt from his recent speech to AIPAC, in regard to a nuclear Iran.

Rand Paul is okay with a nuclear Iran.

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