A Little Bit.ly Sharia? Tech Business Builds on Libya Domain « Creeping Sharia

January 24, 2010

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In other words, as Gawker titled their story: Muammar Qaddafi More or Less Owns Your Links. Astute reporting below from a blog entitled Workbench:

Bit.ly Builds Business on Libya Domain

The URL shortening service Bit.ly just secured $2 million in financing from investors including O’Reilly’s AlphaTech Ventures. Though URL shorteners have been around for years, Bit.ly believes there’s money in offering Twitter-friendly short links along with web analytics to track how the links are used. The company reports that its links were clicked 20 million times last month.

So far, the news coverage I’ve read about Bit.ly has neglected an unusual aspect of the startup: It’s one of the only prominent online ventures using a domain name in the .LY namespace, which is controlled by Libya.

There are two issues that arise from this relationship.

First, of course, is the appearance of an American company doing business with Libya, a country that the U.S. considered a state sponsor of terror from 1979 through 2006. On Dec. 21, 1988, Libyan intelligence agents planted a bomb on Pan Am Flight 103 that blew up 31,000 feet over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing all 259 people onboard.

Bit.ly’s only doing a trivial amount of business with Libya — the domains sell for $75 per year from the registrar Libyan Spider Network — but its use of .LY domain is helping to popularize and legitimize the top-level domain for general use on the Internet. It’s only a matter of time before a reporter decides to ask the families of Lockerbie victims what they think of the arrangement. I can’t imagine that story going well for the company.

Even without that PR hit, there’s another potential concern for Bit.ly and any other venture that builds its business on an .LY domain. These domains are governed by Libyan law, as it states on the Libyan Spider Network site:

Any .LY domain names may be registered, except domains containing obscene and indecent names/phrases, including words of a sexual nature; furthermore domain names may not contain words/phrases or abbreviations insulting religion or politics, or be related to gambling and lottery industry or be contrary to Libyan law or Islamic morality.

So the names must conform to Islamic morality, and it’s possible that the use of the domains could fall under the same rules. What are the odds that some of those 20 million clicks on a Bit.ly-shortened URL end up at sites that would be considered blasphemous or otherwise offensive in an Islamic nation? Bit.ly conveniently provides search pages for such topics as Islam, sharia, gambling and sex, any of which contain links that could spark another controversy.

Bit.ly’s building a business atop a domain that could be taken away at any time, and the company’s only recourse would be to seek redress in the Libyan court system. Take a look at Section 11 of the regulations for .LY owners:

The Arabic language is the language of interpretation, correspondence and the construction of the Regulation or anything related to it. … In case of conflict between the Arabic and the English versions the Arabic version shall prevail.

I hope Bit.ly’s attorneys are brushing up on their Arabic. ~end

More from Domain Name Wire:

Is it wise to run a web service using a questionable country code domain?

I’ve warned about the dangers of country code top level domains. Rogers Cadenhead made some interesting observations about Bit.ly, a URL shortening service that just scored $2M in funding.

You see, .ly is the country code for Libya, which has a not-so-great history with the United States. He also points out some of the rules attached to country code domains. I’ve written before about .AE for United Arab Emirates that restricts uses within Muslim law. There’s no poker.ae, for example. The same thing goes for .ly. This presents a problem since the Bit.ly service let’s you forward to just about any web site with any topic. Technically the content isn’t hosted on a .ly domain, but the danger is there that Libya would lay the hammer on this.

No serious business should use a country code domain name other than a major, unrestricted domain without special content rules.

Update: Twitter’s selection of bit.ly is demise of popular URL shortening service tr.im:

tr.im is now in the process of discontinuing service, effective immediately.

Statistics can no longer be considered reliable, or reliably available going forward. However, all tr.im links will continue to redirect, and will do so until at least December 31, 2009.

Your tweets with tr.im URLs in them will not be affected.

We regret that it came to this, but all of our efforts to avoid it failed. No business we approached wanted to purchase tr.im for even a minor amount.

There is no way for us to monetize URL shortening — users won’t pay for it — and we just can’t justify further development since Twitter has all but annointed bit.ly the market winner. There is simply no point for us to continue operating tr.im, and pay for its upkeep.

We apologize for the disruption and inconvenience this may cause you.

(there’s money in tr.im somewhere – how about an auction?)

Another update: Feedback from tr.im users convinced them to continue the service.

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Jewish Internet Defense Force Says:
April 19, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Thinking we should get Tweet Deck to remove it from their URL shortening options through a campaign possibly. Also, perhaps an automated Tweet to everyone who uses bit.ly on Twitter that they shouldn’t use it, and why.


CO2 HOG™ Says:
April 20, 2009 at 12:48 AM

dividend Says:
June 1, 2009 at 3:09 PM
think we should also ban the english suffix -ly. it’s too adverb-y, and who know how those unpredictable adverbs are gonna modify…


Libya OWNS Your Shorten Links « ~Pop Culture Menace!~ Says:
September 26, 2009 at 10:39 PM
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Libya OWNS Your Shorten Links « ~Pop Culture Menace!~ Says:
September 26, 2009 at 10:41 PM
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A Little Bit.ly Sharia? Tech Business Builds on Libya Domain « Creeping Sharia « Simon Studio Analysis Says:
November 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM
[...] I hope Bit.ly’s attorneys are brushing up on their Arabic. ~end via creepingsharia.wordpress.com [...]


Un:dhimmi Says:
December 11, 2009 at 1:22 AM
I mailed Robert Spencer and others about this aeons ago. I was ignored.

I use tr.im (Isle of Man) with kl.am (Armenia) as a backup for my URL shortening.

Together they spell ‘Imam;’ LOL

Using Bit.ly supports Jihadis « Avid Editor’s Insights Says:
December 15, 2009 at 8:09 AM
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teksquisite Says:
December 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
I was not aware of this and will be using a different service ASAP.

Knowledge is power :)

/Bev


Frugal Dougal Says:
December 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Possibly people are letting Twitter shorten URL’s with bit.ly because they don’t know how to use URL shorteners – this was the case with me until I was told.


teksquisite Says:
December 21, 2009 at 9:56 PM
“I mailed Robert Spencer and others about this aeons ago. I was ignored.”

The Robert Spencer site is all about the Great Robert Spencer and donating money…


Elisse Says:
December 27, 2009 at 2:09 AM
We use http://www.wvurl.com as our shortener here in West Virginia. trust it’s not connected tos omething ghastly, too…


AmasNevy Says:
December 27, 2009 at 9:31 PM
There is American Oil Companies doing billions of dollars deals with the libyan gov and i bet the gas that you are using to drive your car to work today is imported from libya

Why you people making a big deal of this


Bigbrovar Says:
January 9, 2010 at 2:29 AM
scare mongering. you forgot to add how much the families of the Lockerbe Bombing got, a million dollars each to moan their loved ones.


fred Says:
January 12, 2010 at 4:18 PM
Rate This

This article inspired us to survey webmasters to find out their feelings about bit.ly, ow.ly and other rogue country domains. Our report is here: http://4wrd.us/ahox


creeping Says:
January 12, 2010 at 5:06 PM
Thanks Fred. Interesting survey.


Naomi Litvin Says:
January 18, 2010 at 12:44 AM
I have cited your bit.ly article on my latest post on my blog.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Naomi Litvin


Jerry2665 Says:
January 18, 2010 at 10:43 PM
http://tinyurl.com/create.php This one works good


Rex Dixon Says:


January 24, 2010 at 11:42 AM
Let’s all get facts before we post and stir up people to knee jerk reactionary type of action.

First and foremost – we would appreciate you asking Bit.ly directly before you go out and post on your site about Bit.ly and our supposed conspiracy theorized type of Libyan connection.

Here below are the most common Q&A concerning Bit.ly and Libya. Please feel free to engage us in dialog via our direct support channel which is – support@bit.ly – We are way to busy with actual work, and keeping the billions of bit.ly urls running live than to engage in a discussion via this or any blog, but we feel since a concerned member of our community took the time to e-mail us, that we would respond here directly. Please direct any further questions to the address above.

Thank you.

–Why did you pick the name bit.ly?

We picked the name bitly because it’s short and it is evocative of small bits, loosely coupled, a theme at betaworks. Bit.ly is a shorter url than bitly.com, which we also use, and echoes the name of several micro-blogging services like present.ly, song.ly and near.ly.

To purchase the domain, we paid $75 to an online registrar accredited by ICANN, the international nonprofit that governs internet domains and naming, which is headquartered in Marina del Rey, California, here in the US of A.

–Are you confident the site will be safe?

ICANN signed an accountability framework with Libya Telecom and Technology in March 2007, which sets out the telephone company’s (LTT’s) obligations as a registrar for the .ly domain and provides an internationally-accepted mechanism for dispute resolution.

ICANN sets a standard for responsibility and reliability, and we have confidence in their framework.

We’ve also got a tremendous confidence in our engineering team, which has built a redundant, secure, highly-scaleable site. Every single bit.ly short url also exists as a bitly.com page.

–Do you have any issues doing business in Libya?

We don’t do business in Libya, but it’s worth noting that on May 31, 2006 the United States reopened the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, a step the State Department described as marking “a new era in U.S.-Libya relations.”

creeping Says:
January 24, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Rex Dixon,

If you are from bit.ly your response if more than disappointing.

First and foremost, the story came from sites including Gawker, Workbench, and Domain Name Wire – none of which you chose to leave a comment on.

In none of those stories nor here did anyone even come close to suggesting any type of “conspiracy” between bit.ly and Libya. To even suggest so is the purest of propaganda and obfuscation.

Further, no one ever suggested that your site was not secure either. But again, that is not the issue. Nor is the issue doing business in Libya, as you and other commenters suggested.

We posted the information in April 2009 and your are now responding, proving that you are clearly NOT too busy with your billions of Libyan-domain-named short URL’s to formulate a comment that does nothing to address the issues brought up by the various sources.

While you may not want your users and the general public to know that the .ly domain name is a Libyan controlled domain and disputes are potentially subject to Islamic morality law – which is completely opposed to the U.S. Constitution – other sites and blogs chose to share that information.

Users can make up their own mind based on the totality of information and potential risk.

If bitly were to unequivocally announce it will support and defend any bitly user who in the future might face legal action from a knee-jerk reaction from Libya as a result of a bitly url containing content that is “contrary to Libyan law or Islamic morality” then skeptics might have more confidence (that would apply to any business using the Libyan domain).

Just like citizens have the option to vote/note vote for politicians who make policy decisions they don’t agree with (such as removing Libya from state sponsors of terror list), they also have the option of choosing which technology services they use.


Paul W. Swansen Says:
January 24, 2010 at 1:10 PM
A great story on how business gets done.


Noah David Simon Says:
January 24, 2010 at 1:33 PM
it is amusing to me that one of the comments here compared a url shortner to petroleum. Data that can be co-opted and abused should never be compared to a raw resource.

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message to my baby cousin on John McCain

June 2, 2008

Julie Bisceglia
Today at 9:02am
why do you feel McCain is best for the job?

Noah David Simon
Today at 10:20pm
John McCain

(1) he is a mover and a shaker. he’s a guy who can get change done. He has a record of it. He supports the right issues at the right time. He understands complexities. He understood in the 90′s that healthcare was important and he understands the complexities with our relationship with Mexico.

(2) He also understands that our country has to win the war. Our economy bloomed after World War 2 and fell apart after Vietnam… (our well being is committed to Iraq) McCain understands alternative fuel, but he understands economics enough to know that to switch to wind, solar and corn will take time. It will not happen over night. (I’m sorry we didn’t do anything in the 80′s and 90′s about these issues and that was why I was a Democrat and involved in Environmental agencies, but I also know enough about alternative fuels to know that we can’t just snap our fingers and hope our whole existence goes solar. It just isn’t realistic. To win in Iraq will help our country get over the hump just long enough for us to switch energy sources. America is sitting on a huge fuel bank and the reason other countries hate us so much is they know how rich America is with a future. But we will be in debt to China if we don’t win in Iraq and get just enough petroleum fuel to allow the economy to switch engines. McCain is Green, but a pragmatic Green.

(3)Middle East. McCain will support Israel. I’m not happy about the details of this… (but the other Republicans will keep him in line) McCain supports UN 242 more or less… which isn’t great for Israel… but it is the best option out there. 242 is completely undefendable… it is the original Arab/Jewish line set by the U.N.

(4) economics. McCain will bring the best people in who understand what to do in a recession. when the economy is bad… the best thing to do it cut spending and invite investment. There is no simple answers however. and getting stumped by Ron Paul on 15 second tests is no measure of economic knowledge. Even Greenspan would of been dumbfounded by Paul’s debate tactics.

…and that is all I have for such a vague question from my cousin…. there hasn’t been one terrorist attack since 9/11. I think what we are doing is working. And if your pissed off about Enron and all that stuff… just remember that John McCain ran against Bush and warned our country that we were going in the wrong direction. He might be a patriot and a war hero…, but John speaks out when he knows it is right, and he will cooperate when the opposing party reaches out. There in no sense in talking about diplomacy when the other side has knives out.


Why I like Clinton

May 25, 2008

Yedda – People. Sharing. Knowledge.Do you think Hillary Clinton has a better chance …

she has a very good chance of being president if she is persistent.  for one thing she has something she never had before.  Respect.  She showed a will to fight and to do it on male terms.  I’m not a feminist, but I saw strong character that I hadn’t seen before when she was Green with Suha Arafat.  I am glad she lost though because there is another fighter I like alot. John McCain. Perhaps if she continues to support America, it’s allies and the troops then there is a chance for a real vision for health care that most agree with her about.  She does seem to improve with age and I’m willing to bet that sympathy will grow for what she is struggling to do.  She will improve her character as she grays.  She got what she was looking for all year. Not the presidency, but empathy for her ideas… and she has become wise on foreign policy.  No doubt she has a real vision and I would like to see her leading, but right now I think it is important for America to stay the course and not look like we are backpedaling on Iraq.  Especially with all the success in Sadr city this week that was ignored by the media.  Hilary is a kinder and wiser sense of what government can do… but now is not the time to be spending domestic social programs.  A Democrat in office would be a disaster.  We have a war to win and McCain understands the point of alternative fuels.

 

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“The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price”

“The American people are slow to wrath, but when their wrath is once kindled it burns like a consuming flame.”

“The old parties are husks, with no real soul within either, divided on artificial lines, boss-ridden and privilege-controlled, each a jumble of incongruous elements, and neither daring to speak out wisely and fearlessly on what should be said on the vital issues of the day.”

“Speak softly and carry a big stick, and you will go far.”

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McCain and New York Times

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the thing that really gets me is he probably blushed at a pretty girl… the staff reminded him to get his shit together… but the point is that he didn’t order out pizza with her… if you get my drift. I could tell that is what happened because when McCain spoke last night… I was reading his wifes eyes…. something DID happen… but it is natural and understandable. It obviously hurt his wife a lot. …but it is not unforgivable and it makes me like the man all the more. Clinton’s affair didn’t happen once. It wasn’t a blush here and blush there… it was a persistent pattern for decades.

don’t repeat this though.

the fact that the NYTimes drudged this up is totally unforgivable and is the final nail in the coffin for that paper. I can’t believe they stepped that low… even for them. We are all living with the desire for lust… but some go out and interact and are the source of it. McCain is a good man.

Also…
they had all the ace cards last night on PBS

I couldn’t believe they were bringing up Keating 5 last night… like as if that were a big secret that none of us knew. Despicable… Keating 5 is what made McCain into the great man he is today. He has already admitted his mistake… that was why he became proactive against lobbyists in the first place. Also he has addressed Paxton… he has addressed all those issues in the past. to have been active in politics for three decades with experience and this is all the NYTimes can throw at him? Talk about desperate.

McCain will benefit greatly by being trashed by NYTimes smear. Conservatives despise the N.Y. Times. The Times endorsed him a few months ago which almost killed his chances. Implying that McCain is beholding to lobbyists, when the Dems are owned by every union on the planet…and alluding to him having a sexual relationship with a lobbyist after they bent over backwards to excuse Bill’s freedom to diddle the staff

mmm amazing stat… most male votes for Dem presidents since 1976 is 46 percent? I believe it. I also believe that “Obama” has the qualifications to swoon. One thing I am beginning to understand about elections is that (with the exception of Kerry) the base is everything. If your base is split or unenthusiastic then you have nothing… no doubt I am an enthusiastic McCain person… and you know I have BLUE STATE borderline tendencies… (that tells you I am McCain and will vote McCain or I would of been Reagan Democrat) So how many Noahs are there out there? I’m willing to bet from jumping into my own head that the Noahs out there are very open minded… hence why I might vote for a Democrat. I know for sure though that the religious right will come out and vote for Bush or Huckabee with enthusiasm and without question. I know for sure the women would of come out and voted for Obama and Clinton… It is a fact that more people voted in the Democrat primary then a primary in the last hudred years. In fact votes for Hilary were greater then all the Republican votes put together! Obama has a core. We know that now… His core is fragile though (your right… and it will be hard to measure how fast he looses his George Clooney-ness) As much as I would like to see Joe Lieberman run as Vice President again… because I’m a big fan… a better move for McCain would be to bring in Mike Huckabee and increase a second base. Sure Joe Lieberman would make me happier then a chickmunk… I might start donating limbs for his campaign… but if there is one thing I know about politics in my 33 years… I’m a marginalized minority and I don’t count. And I’m white.

OBAMA RAMMA DING DONG A DANG MY DING A DONG DING DONG OBAMMA RAMMA LING LONG… how long do you think the love affair will last that you took your hero HILLARY and shoved her off a cliff? FICKLE FICKLE FICKLE FICKLE FICKLE… do you think the love affair will last seven and a half months… or maybe Barack is peaking! Always better for the ladies when it is slow and gradual, yet always firm and consistent. Size don’t matter… it is how committed over time a man is.


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